I commented at Reggie Lee's cartoon on fb : This hudud law is not a law of civilised men but a "Dark Age" law. You see, with this law, corruption is impossible to prove beyond reasonable doubt ! You need 4 credible witnesses. Try getting 1 ! hahaha !The reply to my comment read: Rasuah tidak termasuk dalam hudud. Itu dipanggil hukuman takzir. Pemerintah akan putuskan hukuman yang wajar termasuk penjara. Hudud adalah bagi kesalahan mencuri merompak dan zina. Harap fahami dulu sebelum mengkritik.
(Goggle translate :Corruption is not included in hudud. Takzir penalties were called. The government will decide the appropriate punishment, including imprisonment. Hudud is for a theft to robbery and adultery. Please understand before criticizing.)
See the above answer is the reason why this "hudud" is totally useless to implement in a secular government like ours as hudud laws seem to only target petty offenses while the law turns a blind eye to the real scourge like corruption in our current government and allows the perpetrators to get away scott-free ! So who needs a society with our Muslim brethren with arms or fingers or pricks missing from petty snatch-thieving "mat-rempits" to randy dandy romeos and shaming and stoning in public those who were caught enjoying a pint or two of that wonderful golden ale and wagered on sports like Toto, Magnum and DaMaChai while the thousands of corrupt crimes committed in high places from the dictatorial era of the old Tun for 22 over long years still continue to enjoy the spoils of their ill-gotten wealth humming to the tune of "Can't touch these".... then I say, screw you PAS and screw you too, shit-stirrer par excellence, the now irrelevant and former PM, the MahaTun !!!
Hudud is seen to justify the means of a few who want to play God/Allah over the lesser of Muslims mortals as non-Muslims or "infidels" like me have absolute immunity from persecution under that same hudud in a syariah court, no ? See I do not even use capital letters for this hudud or syariah because it is not a law this country was founded upon long before our independence from the English but with all due respect to the Prophet, only a recently adopted old Arabic "desert ruling" fashioned by a few mullahs influencing our Islamic scholars aka "juara-kampungs" with their "bogeyman's" deterrent and nothing else ! We here live in a plural and modern society. So PAS, stick your hudud in Arabia and keep it there !
Let's continue to stick to good ole English Common Law because like it or not morons, every law and even our Federal Constitution in this country is borrowed/copied/fashioned/translated after our former colonial masters' English Laws. If we intend to "localise" anything let's first find a word for that English acronym UMNO first !
We had nothing original to work with from then, because we were built with such a good mixture of diverse cultures, customs and religious back-grounds, so there Malaysians....live with it !
Hudud is seen to justify the means of a few who want to play God/Allah over the lesser of Muslims mortals as non-Muslims or "infidels" like me have absolute immunity from persecution under that same hudud in a syariah court, no ? See I do not even use capital letters for this hudud or syariah because it is not a law this country was founded upon long before our independence from the English but with all due respect to the Prophet, only a recently adopted old Arabic "desert ruling" fashioned by a few mullahs influencing our Islamic scholars aka "juara-kampungs" with their "bogeyman's" deterrent and nothing else ! We here live in a plural and modern society. So PAS, stick your hudud in Arabia and keep it there !
Let's continue to stick to good ole English Common Law because like it or not morons, every law and even our Federal Constitution in this country is borrowed/copied/fashioned/translated after our former colonial masters' English Laws. If we intend to "localise" anything let's first find a word for that English acronym UMNO first !
We had nothing original to work with from then, because we were built with such a good mixture of diverse cultures, customs and religious back-grounds, so there Malaysians....live with it !
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Please don't give wrong information regarding 'hudud' till watch this 'hudud forum' in full. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lea13W8B3xQ
Tolahah,
I have not given any "wrong info" as you claim but in fact am only reproducing the facts as you have given me.
Without viewing a "forum" try and convince me and my readers here why one should accept rules that no 1st world thinking nation would use ? Try and keep it as civil as possible please. Thanks.
Huh! Hudud!
Even the so-called Islamic banking system is seen to be more usurious than the normal banking system.
Many will tell you of their regret using the "Islamic" way to finance their houses, cars etc as in the end they end up paying more. Much more.
And try dealing with Bank Islam. Its like going into a bureaucracy that is mired in the 19th century quick-sands of Saudia.
No one returns your calls, and if they do its only to add to your aggravation. Hell, even a letter from my goodself to its CEO went unacknowledged much less answered.
Anyway, that's a digression and a peeve. But seriously,before anyone wants to be more Islamic than the other fella, please engage brain first.
@Shanghaifish, I totally and wholeheartedly agreed with you 100% on your stand on hudud.
Hudud is a primitive, medieval, barbaric, cruel and violent law, but sad to say, there are many muslims here in this country who blindly support it, judging from the rash of comments you find in portals like Malaysian Insider and Free Malaysia today.
These same people will come up in support of Pakatan, but mentioned hudud and they will argue for it or say what your reader above, Tolahah says to defend it.
It is scary, to say the least, in multicultural Malaysia.
The whole world condemns hudud, look at yet another one case today where an Iranian man was sentenced to hang for apostasy, when he converts to Christianity.
Muslims, if your religion is any good, you don't need to force it upon your people and carry out death sentences just to curb their outside conversions.
This is the hallmark of clinging on to desperation, much like a dictator clings on to power.
No wonder, all the people of the world either hates, dislike, frightened of or want to have nothing to do with muslims!
Hudud is one of the Islamic Laws (ta'zir, qisas etc) that came from Allah, the creator of the universe, the All Knowing and The Wise. Hudud brings justice and peace to the society, and is actually good for the thieves in ways unthinkable by most humans, as it came from The Creator of our brain and soul. Thank You. May Allah give you comprehension over the matter.
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